850 F I R E M A N
Check out some tips from Brother in Battle on how to force entry utilizing the baseball bat technique in low visibility. Great technique when visibility is an issue. Check it! -850
850 F I R E M A N
Check out some tips from Brother in Battle on how to force entry utilizing the baseball bat technique in low visibility. Great technique when visibility is an issue. Check it! -850
County Fire Tactics and 850 FIREMAN will be bringing you Training, Observations, and Random Thoughts from the 850. All videos will be archived under the County Fire Tactics “850 Fireman” page.
Check out some nuggets from Brothers in Battle-coming to you from Colorado!
Please Do Not Get on any ROOF without proper training and supervision. Supervision by an experienced Fire Officer who knows when and when not to be on a roof. Roof Operations require proper training, experience, and staffing that allows enough firefighters do the other tactics that have a higher priority. If you have not cut a roof on an acquired structure or roof prop, than do not get on a roof with active fire beneath it. I personally require all firefighters to be breathing air while operating on the roof. I also require that conditions allow for firefighters to be beneath the roof/ceiling, so if you were to fall through, there is an on deck company ready to assist. Please do not miss read this post. It is very short and is strictly to bring focus on roof operations and that this tactic can be beneficial on the fireground. It is not as dangerous as some want us to think it is. Yes, if your understaffed and not properly trained; it could be very dangerous. If your fire department does not normally conduct roof operations, than do not get on the roof.
How Many Firefighters last year got killed performing roof operations?
How Many firefighters got injured last year performing roof operations?
How many firefighters in the last 20 years were killed or injured performing roof operations?
I can’t find one LODD from performing ROOF OPERATIONS while wearing full PPE!!
But I can find one after another where firefighters were KILLED On The Nozzle!!
Roof Operations are not the PROBLEM!! Firefighters, Officers, Chiefs, and organizations that have forgotten our mission… That’s the PROBLEM!
Thank God our military doesn’t take the same approach.
We need more Fire Service Leaders to understand our MISSION and get back to our CUSTOMER. Lives and PROPERTY.
STOP using UL as your excuse/crutch to shut down aggressive firefighting.
STOP using UL so you can generate articles that have never existed and get yourself speaking GIGS on how to stand outside and RISK NOTHING.
Check Out http://www.firefighterrecues.com It’s Worth The Risk!!
Curt Isakson, Supporter of Aggressive Interior Firefighting..
Watch Video Below and then click on link to article on not vertically ventilating.
“Next Time you use your fireplace, please shut the FLUE” Let me know how it works out…
Video below is AWESOME!! Watch what happens with Vertical Ventilation and Water Application in 4 minutes. Listen to bystander. They still expect us to rapidly extinguish FIRE.
Click on LINK and read article..
http://community.fireengineering.com/m/blogpost?id=1219672%3ABlogPost%3A620250
Where are they NOW ???
Mike Alt can you tell us more???
Two Civilians were killed and five others injured in an Apartment Fire in Louisville. One Firefighter was trapped on the second floor and rescued by other firefighters. Some civilians were forced to jump for survival.
Almost every city, county, town/community has some building that resembles the above. We have them all over Escambia County. I keep looking at this photo and thinking how I would command this incident as the only chief on-scene with half the staffing. America Burning was nearly 40 Years ago and America had nearly 10,000 civilians dying each year by fire. It is 2015 and we still have nearly 3,000 dying by FIRE. The number is down because the American Fire Service was founded and is focused on SAVING CIVILIAN LIVES like in the above picture. This was not and is not a fire that exterior water will extinguish the fire. This is/was a FIRE that required the LFD to aggressively fight for the safety of the citizens they SWORE to PROTECT. This is/was a FIRE that required previous INTERIOR EXPERIENCE. I’m challenging you to study this photo and evaluate with your company/battalion on how you would deploy. What would your staffing be? What would a 1st Alarm, 2nd Alarm, 3rd Alarm, etc., get you?? It is GREAT to be ready for the Bread and Butter. But this is not your Bread and Butter Fire.
This is more than a Bread and Butter, even for the Louisville FD. Are you READY?
This Fire Service must stand its ground on Interior Operations. We are not dying from Interior Firefighting. We are dying because so many are focused on the wrong thing. Some are just looking for their next teaching gig and getting their name out there. I believe we have been on the right track for the last 30 years. I believe we have been doing it right. I believe we save a lot more lives than we lose because we are aggressive. Civilians are dying INSIDE. We must continue to Fight Fires from the Interior when possible. We must SHUT DOWN the Keyboard experts that have very little if any fireground experience. Interior Fire Attack and Vertical Ventilation is statistically safe. Check the numbers.
If you support Interior Fire Attack than share this, post AMEN, tell someone, Lets join together for the SAFETY of all Americans. Lets join together to keep property loss down.
Civilians Lives and Civilian Property still counts.
Have a Happy Fourth of July and remember what this Country stands for and how it was founded.
I Love this Job and everything about it. I’m Proud to be FIREFIGHTER!
Thanks-Curt Isakson
Click link below for more info on this fire.
http://www.firefighternation.com/videos/rescues-and-mayday-fatal-louisville-fire
The stats come from several NFPA civilian fatality reports and cause of fire reports between 1984 and 2013. I basically combed through a coupled hundred pages and took out what I thought was interesting and tried to piece together some numbers to ponder. Some of the other information like the 9 out of 10 front doors swing towards the bedrooms came from me sitting at a table with a couple of guys who put 30+ years in searching at large urban depts. one the FDNY and the other San Francisco. Basically I did this to promote discussion with my own crew but since I’m an instructor and admin for the Brothers In Battle page I shared it with a larger audience. I found the information between the two sources NFPA and real world experience interesting and want to formulate my understanding from both. The biggest question I have regarding the tactics my dept. and many other use is are we doing what’s right to locate and remove victims in the fastest way possible. I think if you’ve done primary searches on fires they are often a cluster-fuck. One thing I gathered from this info is, should we be VESing every fire? It’s often the fastest and most accurate way of locating the bedrooms which is where a majority of victims are found who don’t get found behind the main entrance or the main arteries of the house. If we don’t find a Vic in the first room we VES, we simply continue our primary search via the hallway to the next room, (yes that is Freelancing to most people, I call it Freethinking and not trying to put a complex tactic into a box.) These numbers make me want to search a building from the inside out and the outside in. I want to consider all streams of experience and data and after many beers shared with guys who went to more fires than I’ll ever see, draw my own conclusions. This white board for me was just another step in that direction.
By. Brian Olsen
December 1-3, 2015 on Pensacola Beach Class Starts at 0730 on Tuesday December 1 and Ends late Thursday December 3. You should plan on arriving Monday and leaving on Friday. There will be a HUGE Firefighter Party Thursday night.
Time is Running Out on the $250 registration and the conference is filling FAST! The Hotel is also running out of rooms. The $89 rooms are gone, but you can still get rooms for under $100. The last two years SOLD OUT!!
Contact the Pensacola Beach Hilton direct for reservations 1 (850) 916-2999 You pay after you stay “you can reserve without paying”. Code PHC
Free Shuttle to and from the Pensacola International Airport on Monday and Friday. There WILL NOT be a shuttle for Thursday afternoon/evening.
Rooms less than $100 at the Host Hotel/Convention Center.
Free Beer every night with some FREE FOOD/Dinner.
Top Senior Instructors/Speakers from all over North America
This year will also offer some Heavy Rescue Operations and The Nozzle Forward Program.
Socials for all attendees each night of conference and morning walks/runs to start the day.
The following is a list of offered topics that will be covered:
1. Command & Control of High-Rise Fires
2. Size Up and Deployment at High-Rise Fires
3. Understanding and Utilizing Built in Fire Protection Systems
4. Understanding and Utilizing Alarm/Control Room
5. Elevator Operations and Rescues
6. PRVs and Everything that they involve.
7. Search and Rescue at High-Rise Fires
8. Forcible Entry in a Smoke Filled hallway
9. Smoke and Fire Control
10. THE BLANKET!
11. Open Balcony vs. Enclosed Hallway
12. Fire Attack and maximizing Standpipe
13. Attack Line Options
14. Salvage and Controlling activated sprinklers.
15. RIT Operations at High-Rises
16. Standpipe Emergencies
Last Years Brochure as an example of conference schedule
We will flow WATER off the 18th Floor of an occupied Hotel. Where else can you do that? You will Hook Up, Go Up, Stretch down a hallway and through a condo suite.
Link to register
https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=SY2X7MV5S5TWU
Currently $250
$300 before the end of May.
Some of the Speakers/Instructors for 2015
Ray McComack, Mike Lombardo, Mike Ciampo, Bob Morris, Jerry Tracy, Bob Hoff, Rick Kolomay, Dave McGrail, Kevin Story, Bill Gustin, Gabe Angemi, Jim Crawford, Paulie Capo, Curt Isakson, Ed Farly, Jim Ellis, Josh Materi, Nozzle Forward group and many more.
Keynote for 2015
Curt Isakson
The Cultural Divide “It’s Worth The Risk”
Part 1 from last year
Email Questions to countyfiretactics@Hotmail.com
HROC 2016 Page
Check this for the latest info and also like us on Facebook at CF Tactics
http://countyfiretactics.com/high-rise-operations-conference-2014/
SEARCHING WITHOUT A LINE: WHAT WOULD YOU DO?
05/01/1998
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SEARCHING WITHOUT A LINE: WHAT WOULD YOU DO?
BY MIKE LOMBARDO
Risk analysis models influence much of the fireground decision making in the fire service today. But at times we are called to go against these models, act against the odds. The results of such actions are sometimes tragic and sometimes successful. Regardless of the outcome, the fire service must remember that we are a human service, and a standard set of rules or guidelines cannot always dictate the actions of the firefighters who serve the public.
On the evening of January 29, 1998, at approximately 6:30 p.m., a full first-alarm assignment was dispatched to a report of a fire on Townsend Street in Buffalo, New York. The assignment consisted of three engine companies, two truck companies, a rescue company, and a battalion chief.
Truck 11 arrived right behind Battalion 3; the fire was only two blocks from the unit`s quarters. It is a single unit stationed only with the chief; it carries no water and was staffed that evening with five firefighters and an officer. On arrival, the fire was observed venting from two doors and two windows on the number 4 side, from the first-floor rear apartment of this two-story wood-frame dwelling.
With very heavy fire venting from every opening on the number 4 side of the building except one and no engine company yet on location, the prudent decision would have been to await the arrival of an engine and the stretching of a line. However, there were also a frantic mother and father screaming that one of their children was not yet out of the apartment.
Battalion Chief Tom McNaughton also relayed to us that a child was indeed inside the building. He requested that we attempt to enter and search for the child.
There were no openings on the number 3 side of the structure, and windows on the number 2 side were immediately inaccessible by security bars (doors to the apartment were on the number 4 side).
I made the decision to enter the only remaining window into the apartment that was not venting fire. Heavy smoke pushed from the window. Firefighters Tom Jackson and Chuck Sardo and I entered the window into a bathroom. There was a high heat condition in this room. Ahead was a small hallway, where fire was rolling across the ceiling. Jackson crawled through the hallway and into the kitchen. Conditions were worsening rapidly. Fire was heavy in the kitchen.
Outside, Truck 11`s driver, Firefighter Tom Schmelzinger, handed a 212-gallon extinguisher into the bathroom window to me while Firefighters Tom Sullivan and Mike Taube went to the number 2 side of the building to force entry through the security bars on the windows there. (There were also scissor gates on the doors of this apartment house, though they were not a factor in the fire.)
Jackson traveled through the kitchen, with Sardo following. I tried to protect them as much as possible with the water can. Then Jackson entered a small bedroom off the kitchen. He searched a set of bunk beds in this room, with negative results. He came to a pile of clothes in front of the bedroom closet. He found a two-year-old boy.
The bedroom window was barred, providing no exit. Jackson rushed the baby out of the room and almost became trapped in the tiny space at the beginning of the hall between the kitchen sink and hallway wall, which measured less than 18 inches. His helmet was dislodged halfway off his head. He handed the baby to Sardo, who handed the child to me, and I passed him outside to firefighters. The child was in cardiac arrest, and the firefighters performed CPR as they rushed him to a waiting ambulance.
Meanwhile, I used the water can to protect Jackson and Sardo as they made their way forward to the bathroom. It did not extinguish much fire but slowed its progress. I ascertained from Chief McNaughton that this was the only person reported to be in the structure, and we exited the structure. Engine 3`s crew had advanced a line into the building by this time and pushed into the apartment, quickly controlling the fire.
WHAT WOULD YOU DO?
There was tremendous heat in the bathroom, where our team entered. The tub surround had melted into the bathtub, and a medicine cabinet had melted off the wall. Firefighter Jackson received minor burns to his head when his helmet was dislodged in the hallway. These types of conditions normally would indicate that entry should not be made without a handline.
However, with reliable reports such as those given that evening by the child`s family, an attempt must be made to enter and search. If a handline had been immediately available, it still may not have guaranteed success; it most likely would have been advanced in through the apartment door, and crews would have had to delay the search while this line was advanced.
About two months after this fire, a man and woman walked into the quarters of Truck 11. With them was their son, Elijah, the boy rescued from the fire. The child had a fairly large burn on his head that was still healing, but otherwise he was in great shape. If his parents were asked about the firefighting risk vs. benefit of the rescue of their child, there is no question what their answer would be. And with the successful rescue of the baby, I am sure that the collective fire service voice is in agreement.
At the time we entered, Elijah Hall`s life was in the balance, and the duration of that life would be decided within the next few seconds.
But what happens when the child does not survive, or a firefighter does not survive or is seriously injured? It seems, then, that the collective fire service voice is very muddled with armchair quarterbacks saying, “I told you so.”
Decisions such as the one made on Townsend Street are not made by a computer or in a classroom with time to ponder. They are made in a split second and often without complete information. Elijah Hall`s life was saved primarily by the actions of Firefighter Tom Jackson, but also in part by all the members of the team of firefighters who responded that evening. He was saved because Tom–with his training and experience and his team behind him, fully recognizing the risk–“went out and did what he had to do.” And that`s the essence of the fire service.
Events like this take place throughout the fire service. We seldom see names associated with these types of actions. They are not a component of ICS. What drives them cannot be taught in the classroom. Even with our ever-increasing reliance on technology and business management philosophies, the fire service must not lose sight of our primary mission–to save lives–and the fact that it is often the immeasurable personal qualities of individual firefighters that are the driving force behind the accomplishment of that mission. n
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