8 thoughts on “Do you study LODDs that happened on the FIRE Ground?

  1. Not wanting to single any one fallen firefighter out, i know this pictures are from the homewood, IL fire that sadly took the life of FF Brian Carey and severly burned FF Kopas(sadly enough this fire hit really close to home…about 30minutes away from home). R.I.P FF Brian Carey. We have a copy of the NIOSH reports at the station available for anyone to read. As this report states there were numerous flaws that led to the tragic outcome. If anyone would like some more information on this fire here is a link.


    Following is taken from that site above:

    Let’s see what NIOSH identified as factors which contributed to the death of one firefighter and the injury of another:
    Well involved fire with entrapped civilian upon arrival
    Incomplete 360 degree situational size-up
    Inadequate risk-versus-gain analysis
    Ineffective fire control tactics
    Failure to recognize, understand, and react to deteriorating conditions
    Uncoordinated ventilation and its effect on fire behavior
    Removal of self-contained breathing apparatus (SCBA) facepiece
    Inadequate command, control, and accountability
    Insufficient staffing.

  2. Good stuff…where do you draw the line of an aggresive push?

    5 seconds, rapidly evolving fire, go….remember this photo is a split second in time. It’s easy to make that judgement from our office computer screen staring at the same photo frozen in time but how about in the field @ 2am, confirmed entrapment, survivability?…We need better critical thought training, experience, and STRONG command and control (IE: vocal on scene chief officers) OIC is a heavy burden to carry are we prepared?

    • I think it came from the NIOSH report. Really not sure. Sorry. Maybe USFA. Brandon Johnson added the radio links. Thanks for the pass on. I enjoy sharing and asking myself the same questions. I look at it as coaching. Usually a coach only tells/makes us train on something we already know. He or She just wants to push us to be better. Thanks Again.

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