8 thoughts on “Do you study LODDs that happened on the FIRE Ground?”
Not wanting to single any one fallen firefighter out, i know this pictures are from the homewood, IL fire that sadly took the life of FF Brian Carey and severly burned FF Kopas(sadly enough this fire hit really close to home…about 30minutes away from home). R.I.P FF Brian Carey. We have a copy of the NIOSH reports at the station available for anyone to read. As this report states there were numerous flaws that led to the tragic outcome. If anyone would like some more information on this fire here is a link.
Let’s see what NIOSH identified as factors which contributed to the death of one firefighter and the injury of another:
Well involved fire with entrapped civilian upon arrival
Incomplete 360 degree situational size-up
Inadequate risk-versus-gain analysis
Ineffective fire control tactics
Failure to recognize, understand, and react to deteriorating conditions
Uncoordinated ventilation and its effect on fire behavior
Removal of self-contained breathing apparatus (SCBA) facepiece
Inadequate command, control, and accountability
Insufficient staffing.
Forgot to add these as well. There is a lot of radio traffic going on because its multiple scanners on. These are the audio feeds from the night of the fire with intial dispatch as a chair on fire in the residence with oxygen tanks and disabled resident in chair. There are 3 parts and sorry there is a 30 second advertisement before each video.
Thanks Brandon for taking the time to add great info.
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Good stuff…where do you draw the line of an aggresive push?
5 seconds, rapidly evolving fire, go….remember this photo is a split second in time. It’s easy to make that judgement from our office computer screen staring at the same photo frozen in time but how about in the field @ 2am, confirmed entrapment, survivability?…We need better critical thought training, experience, and STRONG command and control (IE: vocal on scene chief officers) OIC is a heavy burden to carry are we prepared?
Excellent work on your blog! I regularly pass it on to members of our department. However, It would be great if you added a link to the source of the graphics you used in this post! I am happy to share and cross post, but would appreciate if you cited the source.
I think it came from the NIOSH report. Really not sure. Sorry. Maybe USFA. Brandon Johnson added the radio links. Thanks for the pass on. I enjoy sharing and asking myself the same questions. I look at it as coaching. Usually a coach only tells/makes us train on something we already know. He or She just wants to push us to be better. Thanks Again.
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Not wanting to single any one fallen firefighter out, i know this pictures are from the homewood, IL fire that sadly took the life of FF Brian Carey and severly burned FF Kopas(sadly enough this fire hit really close to home…about 30minutes away from home). R.I.P FF Brian Carey. We have a copy of the NIOSH reports at the station available for anyone to read. As this report states there were numerous flaws that led to the tragic outcome. If anyone would like some more information on this fire here is a link.
http://firedaily.com/2010/09/niosh-report-out-on-homewood-il-fire-dept-that-killed-brian-carey-last-march-happy-groundhog-day-again/
Following is taken from that site above:
Let’s see what NIOSH identified as factors which contributed to the death of one firefighter and the injury of another:
Well involved fire with entrapped civilian upon arrival
Incomplete 360 degree situational size-up
Inadequate risk-versus-gain analysis
Ineffective fire control tactics
Failure to recognize, understand, and react to deteriorating conditions
Uncoordinated ventilation and its effect on fire behavior
Removal of self-contained breathing apparatus (SCBA) facepiece
Inadequate command, control, and accountability
Insufficient staffing.
Forgot to add these as well. There is a lot of radio traffic going on because its multiple scanners on. These are the audio feeds from the night of the fire with intial dispatch as a chair on fire in the residence with oxygen tanks and disabled resident in chair. There are 3 parts and sorry there is a 30 second advertisement before each video.
Part 1
http://justin.tv/radioman911/b/258337321
Part 2
http://justin.tv/radioman911/b/258337320
Part 3
http://justin.tv/radioman911/b/258337319
Thanks Brandon for taking the time to add great info.
Good stuff…where do you draw the line of an aggresive push?
5 seconds, rapidly evolving fire, go….remember this photo is a split second in time. It’s easy to make that judgement from our office computer screen staring at the same photo frozen in time but how about in the field @ 2am, confirmed entrapment, survivability?…We need better critical thought training, experience, and STRONG command and control (IE: vocal on scene chief officers) OIC is a heavy burden to carry are we prepared?
Excellent work on your blog! I regularly pass it on to members of our department. However, It would be great if you added a link to the source of the graphics you used in this post! I am happy to share and cross post, but would appreciate if you cited the source.
http://cfbt-us.com/wordpress/?p=1342
http://cfbt-us.com/wordpress/?p=1370
I think it came from the NIOSH report. Really not sure. Sorry. Maybe USFA. Brandon Johnson added the radio links. Thanks for the pass on. I enjoy sharing and asking myself the same questions. I look at it as coaching. Usually a coach only tells/makes us train on something we already know. He or She just wants to push us to be better. Thanks Again.
I just clicked on your links. Some one must have forwarded it to me. Most 90 + % are my photos from Escambia County/Northwest Florida.
No matter if some one searches for his essential thing, therefore he/she
wishes to be available that in detail, thus that thing is maintained
over here.